Harper's Island

[Skerdog]

Anyone watching this? Thoughts?

It's been two weeks now and I'm as totally sucked into this story line as I was when LOST premiered. It's hard keeping all the characters straight, but the suspense is incredible.

[Eric_Bryant]

Anyone watching this? Thoughts?

It's been two weeks now and I'm as totally sucked into this story line as I was when LOST premiered. It's hard keeping all the characters straight, but the suspense is incredible.

Saw it for the first time last night...I want to see if I can find the first episode online. So far I'm enjoying it...good "creepy" factor, though one character got off'ed last night who I had hoped would get a couple more episodes.

[Joann]

I have watched both episodes...and I am hooked also. However, I already have trouble remembering who has been killed off. I have them recorded, however, so can go back and check!

[agingdiva]

Good idea, Joann, to save the tapes. My first question would be: who's the guy taped to the boat's propellor in the first episode, the one who leaves the blood trail as the boat pulls away? No one seems to miss him or to have found his body.

I've described this as Poirotesque. Maybe I should say "Agatha Christie with sex".
At any rate, I'm hooked.

[Joe]

Never even heard of it.

[Joann]

[quote=agingdiva;98132]Good idea, Joann, to save the tapes. My first question would be: who's the guy taped to the boat's propellor in the first episode, the one who leaves the blood trail as the boat pulls away? No one seems to miss him or to have found his body.



So far, they don't seem to be finding many bodies.....like the guy who went through the bridge....or the one who got his throat slit while hanging upside down. Very confusing........And what's with this creepy little girl?????

[Skerdog]

Joe:
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/harpers_island/
It's sorta like Agatha Christie's TEN LITTLE INDIANS in that someone dies every week (2 people in episode one, 3 in episode two). And the mystery is.....who's doing it?

Eric:
http://www.hulu.com/videos/search?query=harper%27s+island
or see the CBS link above and scroll down.

Susan:
That was "Cousin Ben" (according to the Hulu site above).

[agingdiva]

Thanks, Tom. Now we wait to learn just whose cousin Ben is, I guess. Honestly, the way they killed him off, the waiting he had to go through before they started that engine, has done something to my psyche!:eek:

[Joe]

Cool... I can watch Hulu on me television.
Maybe I will watch it after the movie premiere tonight.

[agingdiva]

Technologically, I'm still working in the Bronze Age, so I have Video Taped the first & 3rd episodes. Ep. 2 I watched live, and I missed seeing Lucy run after the dog and fall into a pit. Why don't people seem to miss her, by the way?

So, after this past week, I'm vowing to keep my tapes to review on Thurs afternoon; I'm also keeping a written tally. This is more fun than a taffy pull.

Official episode guide here,

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/harpers_island/

but they don't have ep. 3 yet. BTW, cousin Ben, who got tied to the boat propellor, was Trish's cousin; they sailed without him.

[Joann]

Boy, I am lost also. I thought Ben was Trish's cousin. Why has no one ever found his body? Also, the uncle of her boyfriend that got caught in the bridge? It seems to me that a large number of people are dying, but so far only Kelly has been noticed! Like you, I am going back to watch all the episodes. I just watched the last one today. It seems that more characters have sprung up to keep track of, in spite of the fact that so many are dying!!! This is ridiculous.....but I am hooked!

[mamadiva]

This is a creepy show!! I wasn't too sure after the first episode but then after #2...all bets are off! What about the preacher? Didn't he get his throat slashed? I need to go to hulu to watch them again.

[liloldlady]

I am watching hulu as we speak. Just finished watching Uncle Ben get chopped up b y the props and Abby's flashback. Time to go back. :eek:

[liloldlady]

I just finished all three episodes. Except for Kelly, why hasn't the party asked about the missing people.? Yes, there was a text message from Uncle Ben. Doesn't the priest have any relatives, people. someone? What about the girl who was burned? her dog? Too many holes.:eek:

[Joann]

I think we all need to get together and watch all of the existing episodes together. My brain needs help with some of these questions also!

[Joe]

Is it a miniseries... a new show?
What is it?

[mamadiva]

It is a 13 episode murder mystery. It has been called Agatha Christy meets Scream. There is a least a victim or more a week. It is creepy and addicting.

[mamadiva]

Harpers Globe (http://www.harpersglobe.com/about/) is linked to this series. I will have to investigate this site further.

[liloldlady]

Can hardly wait. I hope Sully gets it next. I didn't think leaving the Englishman hanging upside down was funny. Then I think the matron of honor is next. Something really upset the bride in the trailer for this coming week's episode. Who do you think is the killer or killers? I think it is Henry and Abby.:eek:

[agingdiva]

PLEASE NOTE:


http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/210156-CBS_Sends_Harper_s_Island_To_Saturday_Nights.php?r ssid=20065

[liloldlady]

Phui! That cuts it close for those of us in shows or want to see local theatre. I do like being able to see complete episodes on Hulu. I was waiting impatiently for tonight, and now I have to wait for Sat. Going out to dinner, but I hope to leave and get home by 9:00. Who do you think is the murderer or maybe two??:eek: Anything said about the serial killer having relatives?

[Skerdog]

PLEASE NOTE:


http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/210156-CBS_Sends_Harper_s_Island_To_Saturday_Nights.php?r ssid=20065

Just checked and my DVR already knew this. :D

[agingdiva]

Phui! That cuts it close for those of us in shows or want to see local theatre. I do like being able to see complete episodes on Hulu. I was waiting impatiently for tonight, and now I have to wait for Sat. Going out to dinner, but I hope to leave and get home by 9:00. Who do you think is the murderer or maybe two??:eek: Anything said about the serial killer having relatives?


Maybe I misread, but I thought it would be shown tonight and Saturday. Tom, I'm so envious of your dvr. Those of us who are still protecting our homes with bronze spears still rely on video tapes. Maybe in a few years....anyway, I'm taping tonight, whatever shows up.

[Joann]

I am getting so confused, and the show is getting so "far out" that I am about to give up on it!

[Joe]

I just watched the first episode on Hulu this weekend.
Does the show have "staying power" or is it just a bunch of killing.

Lost is "out there"... but I like the characters and story line. Is there a mystery in this one or just a body count?

[agingdiva]

I just watched the first episode on Hulu this weekend.
Does the show have "staying power" or is it just a bunch of killing.

Lost is "out there"... but I like the characters and story line. Is there a mystery in this one or just a body count?

It's in danger of becoming just a body count. Abby is the protagonist, apparently, so we're supposed to like her, but I don't find her very interesting. The bit about the stolen $$ perked me up a little. I think we'd all agree on the next victim. Joann, don't leave us.

[liloldlady]

I thought Sully would be the nerxt victim. Nope. Whatever happened to J.D. who was strung up but alive? I still wonder why Lucy, who was torched, has not been missed as well as her little dog? That little girl is getting really creepy!! :eek:

[agingdiva]

Instant recap for May 9: Trish & her father were chased by a German Shepherd deliberately released by a young man with a scarred face. Mr. W. killed the dog so they could escape. We knew already that the creepy little girl could not be the culprit because Trish & Dad were knocked off their bikes by a heavy log on a trip line. The Sheriff's obsession with Wakefield has extended to his collecting data about other serial killings along the upper Pacific coast, and Lucy's little dog is roaming free; no one seems to miss Lucy until the rehearsal. And finally the Rev. Fain's body was dragged up from the pond. Query: Anyone remember Chloe? Is she still alive? I don't recall her getting offed in any episode. Pls. advise.

[Joann]

I don't think there are going to be enough people left to have a wedding! Was it Lucy who got burned up in the pit? If that was her, then I don't know what happened to Chloe!! I MUST go back and watch the early episodes. I started to go to Shelbyville last night to see "The Boys Next Door" but discovered Highway 44 was closed....so just came home and watched "Harper's Island."

[liloldlady]

Forgot about it last night. Will have to go on HULU to see it. Lucy was the bridesmaid burned in the pit, sso I don't know about Chloe. Who got killed last night? :confused:

[Joann]

You know, I don't recall anyone getting killed last night. There were some close calls....and a rotting raccoon on the alter of the church though.......

[rannman]

I watched one episode, which was not the first since I missed that, and thought it was way to gruesome for my tastes. It also did not seem interesting so I deleted the rest. It turned my stomach. (and I was eating pizza!) Agatha Christie and especially Ten Little Indians has a lot of murders but you don't see many of them and the ones you do are not so horrid. To me, there is enough violence in the real world and I don't want to dwell on it in the tv world.

People complain about the amount of violence in video games but this is similar. Just my opinion of this show from one episode's viewing. It is just not for me. I thought it was going to be more of a mystery and less violant.

I am not judging anyone who chooses to watch it so please don't take it that way.

[Joann]

Ironic isn't it, that it is us old women who seem to be watching it. I find an autoposy on CSI or an operation on one of the hospital shows far worse.....'cause I can believe they are happening!

[agingdiva]

I watched one episode, which was not the first since I missed that, and thought it was way to gruesome for my tastes. It also did not seem interesting so I deleted the rest. It turned my stomach. (and I was eating pizza!) Agatha Christie and especially Ten Little Indians has a lot of murders but you don't see many of them and the ones you do are not so horrid. To me, there is enough violence in the real world and I don't want to dwell on it in the tv world.

People complain about the amount of violence in video games but this is similar. Just my opinion of this show from one episode's viewing. It is just not for me. I thought it was going to be more of a mystery and less violant.

I am not judging anyone who chooses to watch it so please don't take it that way.

Ironic isn't it, that it is us old women who seem to be watching it. I find an autoposy on CSI or an operation on one of the hospital shows far worse.....'cause I can believe they are happening!

Us old women and Skerdog, last I heard.;)

Rann, I don't know what draws us, except that having got started on this journey, I refuse to give up even though I feel I'm being manipulated. As to the violence, what is it with all the tragedy in the real world that draws us to the story of star-crossed lovers who kill themselves, or to the political intrigue of a Scottish king who kills everyone who thwarts him, or to the pain of a less-than-heroic man watching his beloved get on an airplane to leave him in Casablanca? Because of my own conflicted attitude about Vietnam, it took me years to see a production of Miss Saigon, and only the thought of Tobin Strader's disdain--as so frighteningly implied by Stephen--brought me to Footlite this year. (Like Tobin and I hang out!)

Hey, gotta go--don't want to spark a controversy and be sent to the Sandbox!:rolleyes:

Speaking of Ms. Christie, however, did you know that a relative of hers once remarked that she seemed to have "no blood" in her mysteries? She retaliated by writing The Body In the Library, in which the opening scene is simply drenched in gore.

[Skerdog]

Us old women and Skerdog, last I heard.;)

Yepper, still watching it though I've not seen this week's episode yet. So much DVR'd material, so little time....

[agingdiva]

TONIGHT IS EPISODE 6, if tvguide.com is to be trusted. Abby & JD discover a bisected body. Has to be what's left of Uncle Marty. Of course, since this has been in tv time only a day or two since his death, he probably doesn't look too bad. Hard to imagine Harry Hamlin looking bad even after they put him away.

[Joe]

Last episode was the raccoon one right?

[Joann]

Yes, the last episode I saw was the raccoon one. However, I do not see a show listed at all for tonight. Help......where is it????

[liloldlady]

I read somewhere that it would be in June - now I can 't find it.

[agingdiva]

I think everyone in the country saw it except Indy. Race Parade day. Humbug!

[Joann]

I just watched the latest episode of "Harper's Island" on-line. Wow. At least there are getting to be fewer characters to keep track of......

[Joe]

My DVR picked it up at 1am.
I can't wait to watch it tonight after rehearsal.

[liloldlady]

Saw it on line - really creepy. Never did like JR, and I presume the badly burned man is the deputy. There are different blogs that give you some background. OK, I think now it is JR. Why?? Long crush on Abby? Sibling rivalry and envy of Henry? Still don't know how that disturbed little girl enters into the mix. At least some questions were answered re: Chloe and her boyfriend. And someone has given and excuse for Lucy's disappearance. I worry more about her little dog. I need to get cast!!!:eek:

[liloldlady]

We don't do anything re: the race. It is a family day and church day for us. It was a really moving service at Church of the Saviour. We are a small church, sanctuary in the round. The pastor read the names and brief bio of twelve men killed in Iraq/Afganistan from the Indy area. Eleven vets, including Gene, and me, representing the civilian population on Oahu, crossed the sanctuary to the other side, one by one, as our vet's brief bio was read. Two of our people now on active duty were in uniform. Taps was played, and after the last note we came back to our place during singing of The Battle Hymn of the Republic. Many, many tears. I hugged one of our vets., a man who was in the first wave at Omaha Beach, D-Day. Now that is Memorial Day to me.

[agingdiva]

My DVR picked it up at 1am.
I can't wait to watch it tonight after rehearsal.


For not the first time, I have dvr envy.

EDIT: I finally took the time to stutter my way through the online episode. Poor old Uncle Marty was found, but would someone explain the last scene. Did JD duck inside the cabin of the disfigured man? Are they in cahoots? Some 'splainin' would be welcome.

[Joann]

Since I was at "Grey Gardens" Saturday night, I had my DVR record "Harper's Island." However, because of the storms, all I got were storm warnings. Had to watch it on-line, but that was better than nothing. This episode explains the scarred man, to some extent. And it ended with the creepy little girl being locked into a room!!!!

[agingdiva]

I haven't yet watched it online, but I read the recap, which didn't tell me where JD is. Is this getting more confusing? But, hey, I'm hooked for the season. Just 2 more Saturdays to tape, and I'll be home the rest of the summer. Now if we could just get Channel 8 to let us know when or if it will be repeated this week. I don't know who ordained that tornado coverage is more important than my entertainment!

[Joe]

I purchased PlayOn six months ago for my computer and it has been a LIFESAVER for situations such as this!!! It streams HULU, Youtube, CBS, and a myriad of others straight to my TV via my Xbox360, PS3 or Satellite!

We found out when we tried to watch harpers off the DVR that 90% of the show was cut out due to tornado warnings, so I cut over to CBS online and watched the full episode straight off the CBS online feed on my television.

[liloldlady]

I watched it on HULU after church, before going to see PS, Your Cat is Dead. They explained why Uncle Marty wasn't found, but where have they put Richard? OK, I was ready for Malcolm to go after leaving Booth, but when I saw the furnace door open, I thought I was going to have to cut out. I must have been burned at the stake in a former life. The thought of being burned alive makes me run screaming. JD seems to be too obvious, but who? Did Daddy lose his mind after shooting the serial killer? I get a kick out of Chloe and her boy, but I really worry about Lucy's little dog. OK, I love animals more than most people. :eek:

[Joe]

I am going with the fisherman boyfriend guy.

I totally think he was lying when he said he saw her in the bushes and tried to get the killer away!

He made some comment in the show like... "I don't want anyone to come between us" or something like that.

[liloldlady]

Good thought.

[Joe]

Mother said last night...

Watch yourself... I have dated guys like that.

[haasdt]

My money is on Jimmy (Abby's ex-boyfriend guy). Although it would be really interesting if it was Henry, but he doesn't have the opportunity for many of the murders.

[Skerdog]

Wouldn't it be an interesting twist if it turned out to be Abby herself ? The similar-murders began happening on the "mainland" after she went there herself, and now she's back on the island and that's where the murders are happening.... What if she snapped ? What if she's got multiple personalities ? Such fun to think about. :)

[haasdt]

I was thinking the same thing about Abby last night. I was re-thinking the show and it has to be someone NOT on the island because the very first guy to die was tied up under the boat before it left the mainland. If her Mom had a relationship with Wakefield before coming to the island, maybe Abby is Wakefield's daughter. So they really would be another series of Wakefield murders...

[Joann]

You guys might be on to something. Every time I think I have it figured out, my "suspect" gets killed also!

[Joe]

If it is a split personality thing I am going to be PISSED! That has been overdone so much recently.

[liloldlady]

Never thought about Abby. I am now vacillating - Abby or her Dad. :confused:

[agingdiva]

Has anyone considered the little white puppy? Every time a trip wire is strung, there he is. Do you need opposable thumbs to string a trip wire?

[Joann]

Did they ever find the girl who owned the little ugly dog? Boy, the murders are escalating. We had several wiped out last night!

[liloldlady]

No, they have never found Lucy - I have been worried about that dog, and maybe the deputy has been taking care of it. OK, I like animals more than many people. They only found Richard and possibly Malcom (the skull in the incinerator) last night. Now JD is dead. Interesting words - it's all about you, Abby. Another clue. Ex boyfriend, Henry, Dad? I think Best man is next, selfish twit. I hope Chloe and her boy friend survive. With all of the deaths, I wonder why Mom has been letting creepy little girl run around by herself. I've gotten hooked on this one. Gene thinks I am certifiable. :eek:

[Joann]

Thanks for the update on Lucy. Yes, I like the little English guy; hope he makes it. You, Susan, and I are going to have to get together one of these days and get this all straightened out. Seems we are the ones who are really hooked!

[haasdt]

Was Lucy the Bridesmaid who got burnt up in the pit? Why did they think she left the island? I, too, am hooked and completely intrigued by last week's ending. I'd bet Henry found JD before Abbey and tried to help him and that's why his hands were all covered in blood. I still wonder if it's someone on the island (Jimmy or Dad) how'd they kill the first guy they tied under the boat at the mainland? Driving me crazy and there are, what, five more episodes to go? I too think twit blonde groomsman needs to go next, or the other panicky bridesmaid because she's just annoying. I'd also hate to see Chloe or Cal go any time soon. I was looking at another board, and several people thought it might be either 1) Maggie, the wedding planner or 2) Cal, possibly with Chloe. Of course Jimmy, Henry and Abbe are the main three suspects. Oh, and some people think Booth isn't really dead and its him, but I guess the producers made some comment that everyone who is dead is really dead. Also, the producers apparently said when all was revealed about the killer, 1/3 of watchers would be saying we knew it, 1/3 its that person?, and 1/3 will say who is that person? Someone said that might mean there are three killers, but I tend to go for the one killer theory. The Maggie thing is intriguing - someone pointed out that:
She was the last person to see the priest alive
She found the broken china
She did not get scared with the fire crackers went off
She is the one who sent up the scavenger hunt so she could have taken the blade
She was the one who set up where people stand in the church
She works for the Candlewick Inn and the boat Hunter died on, belonged to the Candlewick Inn
She is the only one that does not have an alibi for any of the murders
She was the one that told someone to shut off the lights in the church.

So I guess time will tell and in the end it will either be an "I knew it" moment or a "I never would have suspected" moment.

[liloldlady]

On one episode, it was said by Chloe that she had been trying to get Lucy, that Lucy had left the island (note?). I presume Lucy's pit was filled in. Wedding planner? Interesting. I did love the scene where Chloe gets her ring back. Reminiscent of Legally Blonde where Elle chews out the nerdy student and then slaps him for "breaking her heart", all to give him a reputation as a Ladies Man. I agree with most of haasdt's theories, but can one woman alone set up those death's? Tying Richard up in the tree, getting Uncle Marty's body parts in another tree, the log booby trap that got Trish and her father knocked off of their bicycles; all seem to need a very strong man or even two persons. How many episodes are there?

[Joann]

haasdt raised some interesting questions. Thanks for trying to answer, Jackie. I had not even thought of Maggie, the wedding planner......but find it hard to believe she's the one. I just don't have a clue.

[liloldlady]

Not only have I watched full episodes on HULU, I have watched a few excerps for answers to clues. That is how I knew Chloe was trying to get Lucy. One character in the background did ask why Booth left. I wondered why the pastor wasn't missed right away, but in one episode it was obvious that Chloe and boyfriend had run off for a litte quality time on their own.:rolleyes:

[liloldlady]

Went to the Belfry last night for Picnic so missed Harpers Island. I will wait to see it on HULU, but anyone out there to give me a quick rundown on what happened?:confused:

[Joann]

Went to the Belfry last night for Picnic so missed Harpers Island. I will wait to see it on HULU, but anyone out there to give me a quick rundown on what happened?:confused:

I was watching two little girls so was somewhat distracted....but.....Beth disappeared (I guess she was one of the bridesmaids) and her body was found down in a secret tunnel that no one seemed to know was there. Abby also found the little girl Madison safe and sound down there in a room. Madison thought she had been playing a game, and that Abby's father (the sheriff) had put her there. On another note, accoding to the diary of the original killer, Abby's mother had a child by him. Abby assumes it is her, of course. But I wonder?

The little English guy did surgery on the sheriff, but when he went back later to check on him, he was gone.........That's where it left us.......Stay tuned for new developments!!!!!

[haasdt]

I'm REALLY thinking it's the wedding planner lady that works at the hotel now. Even though they're making it look like the sheriff, the way Madison looked at her after they came back sent up a huge flare for me. Also the fact that Katherine was killed while everyone BUT her was accounted for. I don't think Abbey is actually Wakefield's daughter now - I think it's another red herring and someone else is the child. I think if the sheriff took Madison it was to protect her from something, but I'm thinking it may have been a disguise or something. Not sure, but that's how I'm looking at it.

[liloldlady]

OK, what if the wedding planner is the one, helped by her daughter? not Abby. I still can't see one woman doing the killings by herself.:confused:

[agingdiva]

The wedding planner has a daughter? I never knew. When did she show up?

[liloldlady]

Now, don't get your knickers in a twist, Susan. I was "just supposin'". :confused: If it is the wedding planner, she needs some physical help. I insist it takes two to do all of that.:p

[haasdt]

The only person I can see helping at all in terms of opportunity would be the sheriff, especially since it was the dead ex-deputy's booby trap that hurt his leg, not the killer. I just don't know what his motive would be.

[Skerdog]

Joe and I were talking about this earlier today. What if it's Henry, the groom? Maybe HE'S Wakefield's son and he freaked out about it, flipped his lid, whatever you want to say (Joe just doesn't want it to be a split personality or he's going to throw a fit. haha) ? My main thought for saying this was the discovery of J.D.'s body. Abby finds J.D. bleeding BY HIMSELF. Then Henry appears BEHIND her, with blood dripping off his hands. If you found your brother stabbed to nearly to death, would you not stay there with him rather than get up and "walk around" until someone else shows up ? Seemed a little odd to me anyway.

At any rate, according to this Wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harper%27s_Island), there are 4 more episodes and a dwindling number of characters. We'd better figure out "whodunit" soon. And yeah, we were both agreed that the sheriff isn't the killer...that's a red herring.

[liloldlady]

I would like for it to be Shane, but he was in jail when the sherrif was killed. I am really fond of Chloe and her English guy, Abby and Henry, but who???? Not many left. Why did all of this start when Abby came home. As J.D. Said, it is all about you, Abby. He could get that out but not who killed hime.:confused:

[liloldlady]

Maybe Shane and the wedding planner, Maggie???

[Joe]

I'm still going with her boyfrined. The fishing guy... who hunts with a bow... who was there with Wakefield and just "happened" to see Maggie in the bushes.

I think he is Wakefields son and THAT is why her mother was trying to keep them apart without saying "You are brother and sister" but rather... "I know people like that and you want to stay away".

[liloldlady]

Yes, but if it is Jimmy, who is to take care and love Abby?? Does best friend become lover? Could be. My son married his best friend. We have four more episodes?:eek:

[Joann]

I'm still going with her boyfrined. The fishing guy... who hunts with a bow... who was there with Wakefield and just "happened" to see Maggie in the bushes.

I think he is Wakefields son and THAT is why her mother was trying to keep them apart without saying "You are brother and sister" but rather... "I know people like that and you want to stay away".

At the moment, I am kind of going with Joe's theory. Also agree with Jackie. There have been a lot of surprises in this show, however, so who knows?? My two granddaughters have watched it with me the last two Saturday nights....and I fear they are hooked also. (Such a bad influence I am!)

Stay tuned.........

[agingdiva]

Yes, but if it is Jimmy, who is to take care and love Abby?? Does best friend become lover? Could be. My son married his best friend. We have four more episodes?:eek:

Jackie, what has your son been up to on Saturday nights lately?;)

I'm swearing off any more mini-serials like this. The writing is obviously based on who is asking for more money for the next episode. So far Abby, Henry, Madison, Trish, Sully, Bobby, and Shane have kept their mouths shut and the blonde couple, too. But look what happened to the Sheriff and Jimmy when they even hinted that they deserved more!

[liloldlady]

Whoops, there went many of my theories. Maggie is dead, and so is the Sherrif. At least Jimmy survived. Now it seems to be Wakefield plus who? Gene got back from the diving competition. Bragging rights. Andrew got first place in the three events in which he competed. His biggest competition moved up to the 16 + category. Mini scandal. One of the divers was arrested with alcohol. Back to the miniseries. I can't see why anyone in the wedding party would be doing the killing. Do we have two more episodes? :eek:

[Joe]

Interesting that Wakefield is alive.

I thought that might be the case early on but then Lori and I thought that it was too easy so we moved on to other theories.

I guess the writers guessed people would think it was too easy and then move on and sure enough... they were right.

I still think it is ole what's her name's boyfriend... the fisherman kid. (I haven't cared enough to learn there names, but enjoy the show)

[liloldlady]

Joe, you mean Jimmy? Nope. The sheriff traded his life for Jimmy's so Jimmy could be with Abby. I can't see the b urned deputy helping Wakefield, but I still can't see one person being able to hoist body parts in a tree. See what happens when I am not cast??? Liloldlady watches trashy movies.:p

[bucky]

I've been enjoying the show, especially as a foil to "Rosencranz and Guildenstern are Dead".

So far my tally for H.I. shows more "just desserts" deaths than "tragic irony" deaths. I'm thinking only around 3 of them are not "marked for death"--it's a bloodbath!

GUIL: And what's that, in this case?
PLAYER: It never varies - we aim at the point where everyone who is
marked for death dies.
GUIL: Marked?
PLAYER: Between "just desserts" and "tragic irony" we are given quite a
lot of scope for our particular talent. Generally speaking, things have gone
about as far as they can possibly go when things have got about as bad as
they reasonably get. (He switches on a smile.)
GUIL: Who decides?
PLAYER (switching off his smile): Decides? It is written.

[haasdt]

So it seems the "mystery" is out - Wakefield's alive and murderer #1, Jimmy is probably his son and murderer #2 which would make him Abby's half brother - ew. I think it would have been much more interesting if they had managed to pull off making the killer someone in "the group". It seems kind of a cop out to make Wakefield the killer, but what did I expect? Very sad to see Cal and Chloe go. I loved them. I'll still watch the end to see how it all goes down, but I think the "reveal" should have waited to almost the end and not been so obvious. (sigh)

[agingdiva]

This last episode (#1,679) is on tape, so if I want to watch the last 15 minutes, I can. But, Frankly, Scarlett, I'd just as soon let you people update me. I think the writers and the actors have given up any semblance of belief in what they're doing. My curiosity and determination are engaged enough to make me care about the end of the story, but watching it second-by-second may be too much!

EDIT: Now I find that Robin is left on the suddenly-deserted island. Who the hell is Robin? I don't remember her at all.

[liloldlady]

I missed the first 10 min. so will catch that on tape. No, Jimmy is NOT her half brother - the sherrif was adamant that Abby is his child. But why is Jimmy Wakefield's accomplice? The clipping from the news just seemed to tell that he had been in prison. (Went too fast) I was really sorry that Chloe and boyfriend were killed. Robin?? Who is that?? HULU not only has full episodes but clips to clarify murky points:eek: Two hour finale next week.

[haasdt]

Jimmy COULD be Abby's half brother if her mother and Wakefield had a child BEFORE her parents got together (nothing ever said they were the same age). The diary talked about Wakefield's child with the mother - that's why Abby thought she might be Wakefield's child in the first place. That's the only real reason I could think of that Jimmy would be helping him.

[haasdt]

If anyone has Brighthouse digital cable, there is a Primetime on Demand station in the 600 range that has the last 5 episodes or so on it. Not sure if the other systems have this as well. FYI.

[Joe]

Is this all too easy though?

I thought it was Abby's BF for a few weeks but I can't believe they would give it up in previews. There better be a twist... and a good one.

I'm tellin you though... if it is a split personality thing I am going to be pissed.

[liloldlady]

Where are all the townspeople??? If the marina was blown up, wouldn't they be curious?? In the previews, Trish is in her wedding dress? Isn't that a little freaky? Shane was my least favorite character, but now he is dead. I can't see any of the wedding party with ties to the island except for Henry. I need to look at the script.:p

[kristen.a]

wow, so glad i found this thread! no one will talk to me about HI! as far as the whole townspeople thing, sounds farfetched, but i have a friend who's completely convinced its an elaborate--and psycho--party game. Which would explain why they suddenly disappear. but that sounds a bit too crazy, even for this show.

The worst part was Chloe and Cal dying, they were the only two I was super sad to see go, one of the best endings of this show yet. I also expected Sully to shed some serious man tears if he saw Chloe dead, but alas...:(

Joe, it can't be Jimmy, its just WAY to obvious, my money is on Henry, I believe he is a secret psycho, he also has a reason ( a secret love for Abby, perhaps?) and if anyone's been following the Harpers Globe thing, they had a theory that anyone who dies wears gray or black before they die, etc. and notice--Henry has worn nothing but white and brown. but again, its just a theory!

Last, like everyone else, I hated Shane until the last second when he sacrificed himself for the others. Redemption? In my eyes it is.

My bet on next to die: Guy with the dreads, i think his name's Danny? its always garbled, or never spoken! So I have no idea.

wow, glad to get my thoughts on the table, feel free to call me a crackpot for my theories! :D

[agingdiva]

Welcome to our confused circle, Kristen. What I'd like to know is: did that gorgeous diamond go over the bridge with Chloe? I hope someone worthy finds her body. (I've been watching too long--I'm callous.)

[Skerdog]

Joe, it can't be Jimmy, its just WAY to obvious, my money is on Henry, I believe he is a secret psycho, he also has a reason ( a secret love for Abby, perhaps?) and if anyone's been following the Harpers Globe thing, they had a theory that anyone who dies wears gray or black before they die, etc. and notice--Henry has worn nothing but white and brown. but again, its just a theory!

Don't know about the clothing thing but I agree with you on Henry. This week's episode did NOTHING to make me think differently. If it's him, remember I called it back on June 15th! (http://www.indianaauditions.com/forum/showpost.php?p=100762&postcount=74) :D

[agingdiva]

I'm with Kristen on the next to go. Danny, I think his name is. I was thinking of him as Bobby, and wouldn't swear even now that they didn't call him that for awhile. And when are they going to discover that cousin Ben done bit the big one?

[haasdt]

I've always thought the best "twist" ending would be if Henry or Abby was involved. I guess the whole Jimmy thing could be another huge red herring. I'm still annoyed that Wakefield is alive. At least there would be some sense to Henry being a killer since he has some connection to pretty much everyone who died. It could easily be connected back to Henry's parents dying so young. Time will tell...

[agingdiva]

One problem with Jimmy's being the killer is that poor ole cousin Ben had to be tied to the boat when it left Seattle. True, no reason Jimmy couldn't have gone there to do it, but there's been no clue that he left the island recently, has there? And that would be dirty pool. I second the notion that poor feckless Danny will be the next to go. Sorry, kid. But Sully has something almost like guts, and you folded for awhile in the last segment.

I'll say this right now. IF there is a "Return to Harper's Island" I won't be on board. When I found out that last night's show was a rerun of the first episode, we went surfing and found a Twilight Zone 1/2 hour with Ellie Mae--I mean Donna Douglas. A classic titled "Eye of the Beholder." Much more satisfying than HI. I mean, its climax came in less than 30 minutes. Much better for those of us with low-level ADD.

[liloldlady]

I checked in to make sure that it wasn't the start of the finale, and I quickly tried to find something else. Wish I had found the program Susan did. Let's see next week. Now I am starting to think it is Henry and it is all about the money.:(

[agingdiva]

Oooooh, I like it, Jackie. Henry was in Seattle when poor Cousin Ben (isn't that his name?) got tied to the engine rod. :eek:

[Joann]

And we have to wait an entire week to find the killer(s). I can't say it is the best thing I have ever watched.....but it drew me in.

[Snix3369]

I have seen every episode and I am hooked. The two-hour season finale is scheduled for this Saturday.

[agingdiva]

My friend (and Joann's) Maureen proposes this theory:



I think there IS a child, who is Wakefield's and Abby's mother, and that it is a boy who is helping with the murders. I do NOT think it is Henry nor Jimmy.

[liloldlady]

Is this someone new?:eek:

[agingdiva]

Might be somebody new, might be one of the dwindling # of men still alive--Sully for instance. Prob. not Danny, because of his race. Let's see, anyone else alive? This is almost more fun that watching the program.

[liloldlady]

To bring in some new suspect at this time is just not fair. I read in an essay somewhere about some "rules" for a good "who-dunnit". One, you have to play fair with your readers and not bring in someone brand new for the denouement. Sully? He has no ties to the island. I hate to think it is Jimmy, but who else? Cole, the burned deputy?? We better not have tornado warnings, etc. and be pre-empted.:mad:

[Joann]

I am planning a slumber party Saturday night with my two little granddaughters so we can watch the finale. (I am a bad grandmother.)

I am completely clueless on who the killer can be if it is not Jimmy. I have flat run out of suspects...and, like Jackie, I do not think it would be "fair" to bring in someone new.

We all sure need to get together for a "wrap party" after this one!

[agingdiva]

Skerdog called it! And that's 3 months of my life I won't get back. But I wouldn't have missed the finale. Halfway through the first hour, my husband remarked, "I bet these actors are sorry they signed up for this show.":eek:

[liloldlady]

I had the right guy for the wrong reasons. I thought it was Henry - all for the money. I thought he would marry Trish and have murdered all of her relatives, then her, for Wellington's millions. Sure got me interested, and I don't go for slashers. Had to close my eyes for Jimmy's death.:eek:

[Joann]

Thanks, guys, for keeping this thread alive for those of us who became hooked by the show. It had crossed my mind it could be Henry, but darn it, he was so sweet and innocent looking. Had such a time remembering where I had seen him before....and my granddaugter reminded me last night that he played another "Henry" on Ugly Betty. Duh!

[Skerdog]

Thanks, guys, for keeping this thread alive for those of us who became hooked by the show. It had crossed my mind it could be Henry, but darn it, he was so sweet and innocent looking. Had such a time remembering where I had seen him before....and my granddaugter reminded me last night that he played another "Henry" on Ugly Betty. Duh!

He was also the star of JAKE 2.0 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_2.0).

[Joe]

I actually thought it was a good little miniseries!

I knew when it would start and when it would end. I knew the story had a full arc that was written prior to episode one. How many shows start... you fall in love with them... then they get to a point where the wrtiers just don't know where to go anymore. X-Files comes to mind!

It was good summer fun and I really liked the final two episiodes.

[liloldlady]

It was a good time. I really was touched by Cal and Chloe's death, but it was a blatant rip-off of The Last of the Mohicans. I suspected Henry about half way through, but I thought it was all for the Wellington money.:confused:

[haasdt]

"I've always thought the best "twist" ending would be if Henry or Abby was involved. I guess the whole Jimmy thing could be another huge red herring. I'm still annoyed that Wakefield is alive. At least there would be some sense to Henry being a killer since he has some connection to pretty much everyone who died. It could easily be connected back to Henry's parents dying so young. Time will tell..."

I finally got to watch the final two episodes today as we were on vacation this weekend. At least I was on the right track! About 5 minutes into the first finale episode I knew it was Henry - but that whole thing where he seemed to be "in love" with Abby despite the fact that she was his sister was pretty creepy. I enjoyed the show - some mindless summer distraction. It was pretty much what I expected it to be. BTW, Christopher Gorham was also on one of my favorite under-appreciated series, "Popular", many years ago.

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